Posts by agent zero

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What The Hell...my JW ex-wife just knocked on my door in field service...

by unshackled in

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so get this...this is one strange occurrence that almost ended in awkward disaster.

so i took the week off from work to do some home reno projects.

this morning i was doing some yard work and just finished mowing the front yard.

agent zero

funny story, what a coincidence!

that 1984 wt cover should be photocopied 1000 times and left under the windshield wiper of every car at the DC!

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Trying to Fade, Now they want to interview me on the SAD!!!

by burnedout in

i resigned as an elder some time ago, have been working on fading, the wife is getting used to the new 'me' (not stressed, better husband and father, etc.

), been missing a lot of meetings... even received a few statements such as: 'hi burnedout, it's good to see you!!!

last sunday, i took my one of my sons to the local dragstrip to show him the races, oops missed the meeting.

i don't think dropping a bomb during the part is the way to go. you would just make them think "apostates are everywhere, gotta stay alert!" AND you would ruin the progress of your fade so far, which seems to be going alright, as you say you're skipping half the meetings now and your wife is somewhat ok with that.

also, when is your SAD? if it's still several months ahead, you could agree to do it (to not cause a stir), and if they notice your continued low meeting attendance and general slacking, they would quite likely find a replacement while there is still time.

on the other hand, if it's coming up soon, then you should probably just do it. is it just one of those 2 minute interviews? if so, i disagree with the other poster who said that it will delay your fade by 9 months. those little interviews get forgotten 2 weeks after, for the moment everyone will think you're doing just fine, and then you calmly continue your gradual and discrete fade.

i think that's what i would do in your situation. but it's up to you. and how hypocritical you would feel about it. could you maybe just talk about how good your parents were, just their qualities as parents, and leave the religion a little out of it?

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According to my parents your all hitchhikers!

by Snowboarder in

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well, i moved out of home to study more and live a "evil" life as my parents call it of going to church to light a candle!

i did this twice in the last month and i'm supporting a whore!

and by whore i mean you know babalyon the great!and all apostates are hitchhikers!

agent zero

I also find it interesting that your mom accuses you of sending her info that's full of lies

i find it COMPLETELY ILLOGICAL (i even found it a little strange during my heyday in witnessism), that Witnesses always immediately turn down "apostate" info, and say it's full of lies. that combination never sat well with me. if you're sure it's lies, then you don't have anything to fear, nor anything to lose by checking it out, right? you would know that the logic and strength of your faith couldn't be toppled by it anyways. it seems then, that what they fear more, is that they may find themselves in agreement with some of what they read. but if that's the case, then it can only be because the opposing view that they are agreeing with ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE, and they find it to be true, and it becomes a "truth" to them, either supplemental truth, relative truth, or whatever and they can still decide what to do with it. but it's just more comfortable not to face that.

if a witness agrees to consider opposing views in a complete, logical, and objective way, and afterwards decides he still believes in the witness religion and wants to stay one, well i would respect that decision. it would surprise me that someone would come to that conclusion, but if such is the case, i respect it 100%. but in contrast, holding such a belief blindly and stubbornly, and rejecting anything that hints at disagreeing with your fragile belief out of fear you might lose it, is pure idiocy.

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The effect we are having on the Watchtower is HUGE

by jwfacts in

i was inspired by a recent thread i know i aint gunna crumble the wt, but a girl can dream to look at the effect we as individuals are having on the watchtower society.. 3dogs1husband quoted a story to show that even helping only one person is worth it.. it is encouraging to note that the one person you may have helped has lead to millions being helped, due to the power of compounding growth.. compounding growth is well illustrated by the rice on a chessboard problem.

if you start with 1 grain of rice on square one, and double it to 2 on the second, 4 on the third, 8 on the fourth, by the last (64th) square there would be 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 grains of rice.. likewise, if you help one person out of the grip of the watchtower this year, then next year you help one more and they help one, in a few years that is going to have a formidable result on the number of jehovahs witnesses.

look at the following statistics.

agent zero

thanks for this post!

love seeing the statistics - there are so many contributing factors that influence them, but the final outcome and charts speak for themselves!

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I think an undercover apostate was sitting near me at the meeting this afternoon

by hoser in

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friends

this brother was sitting near me today at the hall and when the public speaker started talking about the signs of the last days this guy started whispering something to his wife and kind of mocking the speaker in a quiet voice.

his wife looked really pissed off.. i've suspected this guy before by some of the stuff he's said and done and some of the #3 talks hes given he's gone off the assigned topic quite a bit.. during the wt study i was doing mics and i happened to walk by him several times.

his wt was on the floor and his bible was opened to topic for conversation at the end of the bible at the last days part.. a little while later his wife gave him the look and said something to him and he picked up his unprepared wt and followed along.. hoser.

agent zero

i just realized that all those descriptions of looking bored, getting carried away on bible reading tangents, whispering critical comments, etc...... ARE 100% ME! :p

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"Offer for July" - what should i do???

by Lied2NoMore in

i have the service mtg part tonight..."the offer for july" which is the "was life created" brochure which has the flawed .

statement about a large sized spiderweb stopping a jumbo jet mid-flight.

the society has offered a retraction of the .

agent zero

went to KH this PM to check brochure stock to see if there had been a revised release. almost grabbed entire stack and threw them in trash

if i had access to that i'd make a stamp that simply says jwfacts.com and stamp the back page of every WT and awake.

what most got me in this brochure is on the page where it approximately says (sorry i dont have it with me right now) something about the real conflict isn't between science and the bible, but between science and false religious traditions or teachings, and point the finger to christian fundementalists. then it says, but let's see what the Bible says about creation (instead of: now let's see what jehovah's witnesses believe about creation)

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